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May 04 2023

Debunking the Myths: Are Hot Tub Saltwater Systems Really Chemical-Free?

In recent years, hot tub salt water systems have flooded the market claiming to be the “natural” or “chemical-free” alternative to sanitize your hot tub. But are these claims accurate? Are saltwater systems really better? Let’s consider the facts so you can make the best decision when purchasing your next hot tub.

History of Hot Tub Salt Water Systems

Saltwater systems were developed for swimming pools around 1980 in New Zealand. Through a process called “electrolysis,” electricity is used to convert dissolved salt (sodium chloride) into chlorine or sodium bromide (which converts to bromine). In other words, a salt water system—by design—generates the same chemical sanitizers used in non-saltwater systems.

marquis spas do not use hot tub salt water systems

Generating chlorine or bromine from saltwater makes sense in the cool water of a swimming pool, especially if a homeowner struggles with granular chlorine dosing or other chemical additives, such as UV inhibitors. But there are more than a few reasons why saltwater systems are not the best fit for hot tubs.

Salt systems convert salt into chlorine, and chlorine sanitizes the water. So, it’s more accurate to call salt systems what they are: chlorine generators. Once you understand that it makes a lot more sense.

Differences between Hot Tubs and Pools

Here are some differences to consider when comparing the average hot tub with the typical backyard pool:

  • At only 400 gallons, the average hot tub is much smaller than a pool.
  • Hot tub water is much warmer, up to 104⁰F (40⁰C), causing bathers to sweat more and excrete more organics.
  • Less water, more organics, and higher heat consume sanitizer more quickly.
  • Slow regeneration of sanitizer causes problems more quickly in a hot tub.
  • Open pools allow sanitizers to vent (or, “off-gas”) whereas hot tubs are covered when not in use. Excessive chlorine traps excessive chlorine gas, which may cause damage.
  • Unlike most pools, hot tubs have internal metal components such as water heaters, heater elements, and jet face escutcheons (the metal rings around the jets).
  • Pools are typically made of fiberglass or concrete, whereas hot tubs have an acrylic shell.
  • Water in an open pool is exposed to more natural UV light than in a hot tub.

Why the Differences Matter

Two people in a 10,000-gallon pool (37,855 litres) is obviously much different than two people in a 400-gallon hot tub (1,515 litres). Less water volume means a higher concentration of dissolved organic compounds (such as sweat, skin oil and bacteria) which uses up sanitizer more quickly. So to remain effective, a saltwater system in a hot tub would need to generate—and maintain—a higher sanitizer concentration, not a lower one. Is this what really happens?

In the high-temperature environment of a hot tub, it is quite possible that a chlorine or bromine generator may not produce enough sanitizer to keep up with demand. Especially when extra bathers are added to the mix. In fact, some salt system manufacturers admit you may have to add additional sanitizer to properly maintain safe water!

If the generator continues to run without bathers (meaning there is not enough dissolved organics to use up the extra sanitizer), it may actually overproduce chlorine for a while. “Over-chlorination” may lead to excess chlorine gas trapped underneath the cover. Not only can this degrade foam pillows and the underside of the spa cover to the point of bleaching, but it may also corrode exposed metal accents (including stainless steel), and/or dull the color of hot tub acrylic surfaces.

Hot Tub Salt Water Systems and Hot Tub Heaters

When salt is added to spa water, it is not immediately converted into sanitizer (through the process of electrolysis). Many salt system manufacturers claim the amount of salt is at a “minimal level” in the water. However, salt systems require about 1,750 to 3,000 parts per million to work, or about triple the amount of salt found in tap water. You can estimate about 10 or more cups of salt for a 400-gallon hot tub, or about 2-1/3 cups of salt per 100 gallons. Why does this matter?

Ask anyone living near the ocean or where icy roadways are salted, and they will tell you about their issues with metal corrosion. Salt causes corrosion and rust by attacking metal and breaking it down. When metal components inside a hot tub—such as heaters, heater elements, and jet escutcheons—are exposed to high sodium doses corrosion may occur. This can shorten the lifespan of internal metal components, resulting in poor performance and costly repair bills.

Are Salt Systems Covered Under Warranty?

When it comes to aftermarket chlorine generators, and even those installed by the hot tub manufacturer, be sure to verify what is—and is not—covered under the manufacturer’s warranty. Some hot tub manufacturers decline warranty coverage if an aftermarket hot tub salt water systems unit was installed instead of the manufacturer-installed unit. Plus, corroded heaters or heating elements may not be covered under warranty if the damage is attributable to “chemical abuse.” In other words, if a salt system over-chlorinates the water and damages internal components, it may be attributed to “chemical abuse” which is not typically covered under warranty.

As far as the saltwater system itself, a one-year warranty is typical. By contrast, in-line sanitation systems (which do not use salt) have a longer warranty period—usually between two to five years.

Do Salt Systems Require Less Maintenance?

Salt systems are supposed to make sanitizing a hot tub “easy,” and manufacturers claim such hot tubs are “easier to maintain.” But are they really ‘set it and forget it’ systems? In reality, a saltwater system can take longer to start up than a standard water care system because of the time it takes to convert the salt into chlorine or bromine. In fact, the electrolysis process may take more than 72 hours to generate enough sanitizer to catch up with a family’s spa usage, and may even require adding granular sanitizer or shock oxidizer to recover the water.

What about the surrounding deck or patio? Inevitably, some water splashes out of the hot tub while it’s being used. Some major salt system manufacturers say on their websites that, if you don’t wash down areas where water has splashed out of a saltwater hot tub, you could experience a stained deck and damage to surrounding plants and shrubs. But ask yourself: “Do I really want to hose down my patio, deck or surrounding backyard after I’ve spent a relaxing evening in my hot tub?”

Last but not least, manufacturers tout that “properly-maintained” saltwater can be kept for up to a year, and that salt cartridges only need replacing every 4 months (or 120 days). However, much like standard water care systems, a saltwater hot tub requires a variety of water care products to properly maintain it. These include salt test strips, balancing test strips, balancing chemicals, metal and stain removers, spa cleaners, and pre-filters to reduce calcium. Clearly, the whole “less maintenance” claim doesn’t hold much water.

Expert Advice from a Hot Tub Industry Veteran

Bill Wells, Marquis National Sales Director, has observed the saltwater debate for over 25 years. “Salt systems sound great, but the devil is in the details,” he cautions. “Marquis has explored salt technology repeatedly, looking for benefits that outweigh the problems inherent with salt. But we keep arriving at the same conclusion: salt makes it harder, not easier to own a hot tub.”

“Unfortunately, saltwater hot tubs have been marketed as a mystical, magical thing,” he continues, “giving people the false impression that salt sanitizes the water. But it doesn’t. That’s not how it works. Salt systems convert salt into chlorine, and chlorine sanitizes the water. So, it’s more accurate to call salt systems what they are: chlorine generators. Once you understand that it makes a lot more sense.”

From a technical perspective, he adds: “Salt systems are supposed generate chlorine in the range of 3 to 5 ppm (parts-per-million). But they are slow to react to bathers in the water, so they continue generating chlorine as high as 10ppm. That will shorten the lifespan your foam spa pillows and spa cover, and probably irritate people with sensitive skin. In contrast, the Marquis in-line sanitization system maintains about 0.5 to 1ppm. In other words, you get a lower concentration of chemicals with Marquis. Safe, clear, odorless water, and none of the issues inherent with salt.”

Consequently, he feels very comfortable recommending the Marquis ConstantClean+ system to dealers and consumers alike. “The goal of a hot tub is relaxation and enjoyment, not a headache to maintain. ConstantClean+ is the simplest and easiest system, with the lowest chemical concentration. You look at the test strip, and if it’s good you’re good. If the sanitizer is low, you adjust your cartridge. And if the cartridge is empty, you replace it. Simple.”

Marquis has explored salt technology repeatedly, looking for benefits that outweigh the problems inherent with salt. But we keep arriving at the same conclusion: salt makes it harder, not easier to own a hot tub.

Why Marquis Hot Tub Water Care is Better

At Marquis, we believe that technological advancements are great as long as they work as advertised. Our engineers continually research and test available technologies to determine whether or not they can be recommended. But as we have seen, the claim that salt systems are “natural,” “chemical-free,” or “maintenance free” is simply not accurate. Salt system technology produces the very same ‘natural chemicals’ used in Marquis hot tubs. But given the negative impact of salt on internal hot tub components, the potential warranty issues, and the added maintenance concerns, does a saltwater system really make sense?

Spa water needs to be sanitized to be safe. With over four decades of hot tub manufacturing and proper hot water maintenance experience, Marquis remains convinced by best practices which have stood the test of time. Namely, smaller controlled doses of bromine or chlorine, an ozone generator, and perhaps spa minerals (or conditioners) to soften the water. These methods not only ensure safe water, but serve to protect your hot tub components over time to deliver The Ultimate Hot Tub Experience!®

Marquis Crown Collection, Signature Series, Vector21 and Marquis Elite series hot tubs offer a high-end, self-dispensing water treatment system specifically designed to slow dose a hot tub to the right level. Marquis has partnered with Frog®, one of the leading manufacturers of sanitizers and natural minerals, to sanitize and soften the water. Pairing Marquis® chemicals and spa care products with your hot tub ensures clean, safe, and easy water care. You can sit back, relax, and soak away the troubles of the day, confident in the pristine water surrounding you. For the best water care available, visit our ConstantClean+ section to learn more about the best water management system on the market.

Schedule a free estimate today for a new Marquis Spa

Written by Jeremy · Categorized: Hot Tub Information

Sep 19 2024

Arnold Firewood Made Easy: Your Path to a Warm Home

Arnold Firewood

Hello, neighbors in Arnold! The leaves are changing colors, and the air is getting cooler. Winter is on its way, and there’s nothing like a warm, cozy fire to keep you comfortable. To enjoy those fires, you need good firewood and a safe, efficient stove or fireplace. We’re here to share some tips to help you get ready with the best Arnold firewood.


Choosing the Right Type of Arnold Firewood

Not all firewood is the same. The kind of wood you burn can make a big difference in how warm your home gets and how long the fire lasts.

Hardwoods for Long-Lasting Heat

  • Oak: Around Arnold, oak is the most popular hardwood. Oak burns slowly and produces a lot of heat, making it perfect for those long winter nights.
  • Almond: Almond wood is another good option. It burns hot and lasts a long time.

Softwoods for Starting Fires

  • Pine and Cedar: The most common softwoods in our area are pine and cedar. They light easily and smell wonderful, but they don’t produce as much heat as hardwoods.

For the best results, we recommend using oak for your main fire and adding softwoods like pine or cedar to help get the fire started. When buying Arnold firewood, make sure to choose the right mix for your needs.


How Firewood Is Measured

When buying firewood in Arnold, you’ll hear terms like “cord” or “face cord.” Knowing what these mean will help you get the right amount of wood.

  • Cord: A large stack of wood that measures 4 feet high, 4 feet wide, and 8 feet long. That’s 128 cubic feet of wood!
  • Face Cord: This stack is also 4 feet high and 8 feet long, but the logs are shorter, usually about 16 inches deep. This is about one-third of a full cord.

Some people use the word “rick,” which can mean the same as a face cord, but it can vary. Always ask the seller exactly how much wood you’re getting when you buy Arnold firewood.


Checking If Firewood Is Properly Seasoned

Seasoned Arnold Firewood
Seasoned Firewood

“Seasoned” wood has been dried out so it burns well. Freshly cut wood, called “green” wood, is too wet. Burning green wood can make a lot of smoke and cause problems in your chimney.

Here’s how to tell if wood is seasoned:

  • Look at the Color: Seasoned wood is usually darker, with gray or brown ends.
  • Check for Cracks: Dry wood often has cracks or splits at the ends.
  • Feel the Weight: Seasoned wood is lighter because it has less water.
  • Knock Two Pieces Together: If it sounds hollow, it’s likely dry. A dull thud means it’s still wet.

You can also use a moisture meter to check. Wood should have a moisture content of 20% or less.


Burn Only the Right Materials

It’s important to burn only wood in your fireplace or wood stove. Never burn things like newspapers, magazines, mail, or cardboard. These materials can cause big flames that are hard to control and may release harmful chemicals. It’s okay to use small amounts of approved fire starters to help get your fire going.


Modern Wood Stoves and Inserts Make a Difference

Lopi Endeaver Wood Stove Burning Arnold Firewood
Lopi Endeavor NexGen-Hybrid™ Wood Stove by Hibernation Stoves & Spas

Using good firewood is important, but so is having the right stove or fireplace. Modern wood stoves and inserts are much more efficient than older models. They burn wood more completely, which gives you more heat and less smoke. This means you use less wood and save money in the long run.

An efficient wood stove or insert can:

  • Keep Your Home Warmer: Get more heat from the wood you burn.
  • Reduce Smoke and Emissions: Better for the environment and your health.
  • Save Money: Use less wood and lower your heating bills.

If you’re thinking about upgrading, we’re happy to help you find the right stove or insert for your home.


Watch Out for Dishonest Practices When Buying Arnold Firewood

Most wood sellers are honest, but some might try to trick you. Here are things to watch for:

  • Short Loads: Make sure you’re getting the amount you paid for. Remember the measurements of a cord and face cord.
  • Green Wood Sold as Seasoned: Some sellers might say their wood is dry when it’s not. Use the tips above to check.
  • Mixed Wood Types: If you pay for hardwood like oak, make sure you’re not getting softwood mixed in.

Tips to Avoid Problems

  • Ask Questions: Don’t be shy! Ask the seller how long the wood has been drying and what types of wood are included.
  • Inspect the Wood: Look at the wood before you buy. If possible, watch it being loaded.
  • Get a Receipt: This should show the amount and type of wood you bought.

Stay Warm and Cozy This Winter with Arnold Firewood

We hope these tips help you find the best Arnold firewood and keep your home warm this winter. Remember, having the right wood and a modern, efficient stove or insert makes all the difference. If you have any questions or need advice, feel free to stop by our shop. We’re always here to help our neighbors in Arnold enjoy the season safely.

Stay warm, friends!

Written by Jeremy · Categorized: Firewood

Jan 03 2022

Discover Cozy Comfort with Lopi, Fireplace Xtrordinair, and Marquis Spas at the Newly Remodeled Hibernation Stoves & Spas Showroom

Creating a warm and inviting home is now easier than ever with the newly remodeled Hibernation Stoves & Spas showroom. As the go-to destination in Calaveras County for top-quality fireplaces, stoves, and hot tubs from leading brands like Lopi, Fireplace Xtrordinair, and Marquis Spas, our spacious 2,500 sq/ft showroom offers the largest selection on display in the area.

With our recent remodeling, we have expanded our range of fireplaces and stoves to provide customers with even more options. From modern Fireplace Xtrordinair gas fireplaces to traditional Lopi wood-burning stoves, we have something to suit every taste and style. Additionally, our luxurious Marquis Spas hot tubs offer the perfect solution for relaxation and rejuvenation. Visit our showroom to explore the various designs and find the perfect addition to enhance your home’s ambiance.

At Hibernation Stoves & Spas, our experienced team is always on hand to provide personalized guidance in choosing the ideal Lopi stove, Fireplace Xtrordinair fireplace, or Marquis Spas hot tub. We are dedicated to helping you find the perfect product that suits your needs and complements your home’s décor.

Discover the largest selection of fireplaces, stoves, and hot tubs in Calaveras County at our newly remodeled Hibernation Stoves & Spas showroom. Experience cozy comfort with Lopi, Fireplace Xtrordinair, and Marquis Spas, and transform your home into a warm and inviting oasis. We look forward to helping you find the perfect addition to your living space.

📍 Visit us at: Hibernation Stoves & Spas
2641 Highway 4
Arnold, CA 95223
209-795-4339
Open Tuesday – Saturday 9am to 5pm

We can’t wait to see you there!

Written by Jeremy · Categorized: Showroom

Serving the Sierra Foothills Since 1977

Established in 1977, Hibernation Stoves and Spas is proud to be a trusted partner and a “Builder’s Choice” supplier, serving over 60 of the region’s top building contractors across Calaveras County and surrounding communities. As a locally owned and operated business, we specialize in providing and installing premium stoves, fireplaces, inserts, and hot tubs from industry-leading manufacturers such as Lopi, Fireplace Xtrordinair, and Marquis Spas.

Fully licensed, bonded, and insured by the state of California (CA License# 1081282), our experienced team is committed to delivering unmatched quality, personalized service, and honest advice. At Hibernation, your comfort and satisfaction are always our top priority. We look forward to exceeding your expectations on every project.

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